RY Trad 072013
Foundation light-bodied, clean, and INTENSE yellow show HMPK male by Pichet (Interfish, Thailand).
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Darkbodied, intense red show HMPK female by Sieg Illig.
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Favorite pineapple male out of the F1 spawn. BOV shortfin traditional PK male at Convention.
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Extremely intense lightbodied red female. Slight bump on the peduncle.
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With this cross, I am experimenting with the intensity of the light bodied yellow when crossed with a pineapple yellow. I expect there to be about half darkbodied and half lightbodied yellows in the offspring. I also expect about half traditional and half show HMPK, since the female has increased branching in her caudal.
I managed to get some really beautiful spawning photos of this pair. Yay for learning how to use a DSLR!
I managed to get some really beautiful spawning photos of this pair. Yay for learning how to use a DSLR!
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Update 090613
Interesting observations with this spawn:
1) Looks like a ratio of about 75% clean yellows and 25% pineapples (expected 50/50).
2) Growing a little slower than "normal" for me.
3) The pineapples seem to have trouble growing the full length of their swim bladders in comparison to their clean yellow brothers and sisters. Lots and lots of pineapple "bobbers" at this point. I hope that they grow out of it, otherwise I will have to cull them :/
1) Looks like a ratio of about 75% clean yellows and 25% pineapples (expected 50/50).
2) Growing a little slower than "normal" for me.
3) The pineapples seem to have trouble growing the full length of their swim bladders in comparison to their clean yellow brothers and sisters. Lots and lots of pineapple "bobbers" at this point. I hope that they grow out of it, otherwise I will have to cull them :/
Growing growing growing! About 7 weeks
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No real signs of color yet
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Update 121513
Sloooooowly growing up...
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Update 030114
This...was the WEIRDEST spawn I've ever had! I don't think I will ever do another yellow x yellow spawn again. Color took a huge step backwards in this cross - strange little red spots in the fins, random black scaling, and iridescence. Also short bodies, a couple funky top lines, and even a 3 ventral fellow (see previous post). Wow lol
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Although the male above has a nice body (and really ok form overall), his color faults are numerous. Pale yellow coloration, random black scales, iridescence in the caudal, and tons of little red dots on the fins.
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This guy has the best show PK finnage in the spawn, tempered by the funky topline. Nice D-shaped caudal, balanced anal and ventrals that come to nice tips, and a nice show PK dorsal (notice how it is full and thrusted forward). No gaps between the unpaired fins. The black scaling could be more even over the top of the fish, and the yellow should reach the ends of his fins rather than fade as they do here.
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This male also has fairly good show PK finnage and the dark body yellow bicolor ("pineapple"). More iridescence than the pineapple brother above, along with black edging on the fins. The bottom of his anal is uneven, either genetic or a condition fault is difficult to tell. |
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Another funky male! His form is definitely leaning more traditional than show. Notice how the edges of his caudal are rounded, and there is only primary branching in the caudal rays? The dorsal is rounder, like a rounded japanese fan. The anal point is sharper, much more exaggerated than the brothers above, and the ventrals are longer (although they could be fuller). His body is a little too short, but he also looks short because he is kind of fat on worms right now :p |
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Now the ultimate in weird...3 full, functional ventrals!! I think I'm going to have to keep him just because he makes me smile every time I look at him. What an attitude!
At this point, I think I will shelve this spawn. It was a little disappointing, because the mother of this spawn was a truly intense clean yellow (see spawn log)...but the results were far from what I expected. I do believe now that a yellow x yellow spawn dilutes out the intensity of the colors, and allows some weird recessive traits (the red dots in the fins?) to surface.
At this point, I think I will shelve this spawn. It was a little disappointing, because the mother of this spawn was a truly intense clean yellow (see spawn log)...but the results were far from what I expected. I do believe now that a yellow x yellow spawn dilutes out the intensity of the colors, and allows some weird recessive traits (the red dots in the fins?) to surface.